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Debbie Liu's avatar

Intriguing, fascinating. you've given me the second quotable quote of the day (the first one was from a poster on another of your articles)

"the voidiness of the zombie’s void." 😊

Now I know this is all very serious stuff and I'm not supposed to laugh, but i did actually laugh out loud at that one.

" Anything at all that can be scooped up by the term “intensionality” can be imagined as missing in your twin except where the merely physical processes of the zombie’s brain create features that are, functionally at least, a little bit like an ersatz form of pseudo-intentionality, a lame pseudo-aboutness that goes entirely unobserved in the zombie’s head."

And yet, there are people out there with their AI robotic companions who imagine that the piece of AI in their robot is 'intentional' and has 'human emotions'.

This is serious stuff for a monday morning - I think I need another tea before I venture into ethereal imagined imaginary triangles.

Thank you for this extraordinary thought experiment. (Even if I'm taking a while to follow the arguments 😳😂)

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Drew Raybold's avatar

Congratulations! you are producing thought-provoking ideas at a rate far greater than I can keep up with, let alone respond to in any fully thought-out way - so what follows must be considered as half-baked.

I am wondering if it is something of a straw man to specify that zombies completely lack intensionality: what they definitionally lack is conscious experience (to put it as it is in the SEP's Zombies entry.) At least at first sight, these seem to be separable issues; for example, I have never had the conscious experience of perfect pitch, yet I can have thoughts, such as "my uncle has perfect pitch" in which the term seems to have an intension.

To be clear, I am not attempting to defend the zombie intuition, I am merely trying to follow your instruction to think like a (die-)hardist. It is a challenging task to accept, for the sake of argument, so many ideas which seem unjustifiable.

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